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Post by Clear Rivers Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:37 am

exactly! lol i know she's close to a couple of people, so she has to be have some allegiances with at least a couple people. her pretending to not be here and doing other things could definitely be an act. how are you feeling about our group? do you think it's still salvageable?
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Post by Tatum Riley Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:41 am

I think it should be, after this week I think it proves that we should continue on together. It’s what I would prefer but I don’t know how the others feel
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Post by Clear Rivers Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:47 am

i'm really hoping so, i think Sheila and Tree kind of had something there from what I sensed, but i think they're good now especially after this week. now I don't know what will happen with Mindy and Carrie being final noms if that's what Sheila ends up doing. i don't really know who Mindy talks to because she's hella dry and i just find it hard to have consistent conversation with her lol
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Post by Tatum Riley Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:57 am

I feel that way about Mindy too.

This is a side note and something I haven’t mentioned anywhere so I’m trusting you with this thought I’m having and it’s just something I’m curious about and maybe I’m being paranoid but I wanna mention it to someone and I really trust you. So… I’m a little confused about what kind of relationship Penelope and Sheila have. This isn’t me talking shit on either of them it’s just me thinking. Penelope put her up, Sheila has voted her out, Penelope ACTED like she was sure she would be a nom this week and Sheila makes 3 nominations and none of them are her? Penelope and Samara had some kind of issue at the beginning and just today she told me Samara would expect her to use the veto on her if she were to win it… I still feel good with Penelope but these things are just making me wonder… It could be nothing really but I can sometimes be paranoid about what is all going on around me and I sometimes worry if I’m being left outside of something critical and ignoring all the signs. Both Sheila and Penelope are two of the people that are the only ones who talk to me outside of you and Tree so I of course still trust them but I don’t know who these people on the outside are buddied up with. Sorry for the rambling I’m just talking 😭 this could all be irrelevant stuff to talk about but yea
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Post by Clear Rivers Fri Apr 08, 2022 1:06 am

no, i'm glad you are telling me this because it's definitely something i noticed too. here's what i've gotten from the both of them. it seems like they are trying to make a truce with one another. Penelope told me that she told Sheila that they are even and starting on a clean slate when Sheila voted her out since Penelope put her up. Sheila told me that she was wanting to make a truce with Penelope because she feels like Penelope is at least straight up with her so she knows what to expect, but from what I'm getting, they are both actually serious about it. but from what i'm getting, Penelope and Tree are close (we been knew), Penelope and Samara I think made amends because they were in alliance with Thomasin and Rhonda a while back, so I think that were they started to trust and work with one another. i'm not sure if Tree and Samara are close or not, maybe it's Penelope/Tree and then Penelope/Samara, but I kind of have an inkling they could all be something too because in that scenario, Penelope is the glue that holds the two so she knows she would be picked by both over the other if that makes sense.

but yeah, outside of our 4, Penelope is the only one that actually talks game with me so I feel you completely.
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Post by Tatum Riley Fri Apr 08, 2022 1:13 am

I wouldn’t be nominating Penelope by any means but I do worry that she is very good at connecting with people and repairing damaged relationships which is a quality that can carry someone to the end of the game. Again not something I’m trying to do anything about right now but it’s making me worried in the sense that if she were to win hoh again and she has all these truces all over the place where does that leave people like me and you?!

Anyway, she’s told me she’s voting Mindy out. She said she thinks she could sway Nancy too (yet another red flag since they’re supposed to be after each other but they’re apparently going to be voting together and have talked about it lol)

So that’s 2. Samara and Luba don’t talk to me. So idk about their votes at all but yea
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Post by Clear Rivers Fri Apr 08, 2022 1:24 am

no you are definitely spilling some tea, girl! i agree with you in that she's really good at getting people to feel connected to her and like prioritize by her. she's won over Samara, she has some kind of a tight grip on Tree lol i do trust her and think she wouldn't gun for us. from what Penelope told me when she was campaigning to me the other night is that she's after Nancy, so if she supposedly can get Nancy too, then it just goes to show again just how good she is with making feel good with her.

Nancy is telling me that she is leaning towards evicting Mindy, are you getting the same thing from her?

Luba just now finally responded to my message i sent a few days ago, which i think shows she's pretty close with Mindy, but i kind of already assumed that.
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Post by Tatum Riley Fri Apr 08, 2022 1:26 am

I haven’t talked to Nancy about the vote but I think that she will be evicting Mindy from what I’ve been hearing
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Post by Clear Rivers Fri Apr 08, 2022 1:38 am

Wait, what are you wanting to do? Or are we waiting to see how everyone else is leaning with their votes?

Samara told me she thinks Mindy is better to keep as a shield. Lmk what she tells you.
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Post by Tatum Riley Fri Apr 08, 2022 1:40 am

Samara told me the same thing. From her point of view I think she is worried that if Carrie goes then she will be put up more often, but I do agree about Carrie needing to go eventually.

I personally wouldn’t mind Mindy going now though since we are now in a good place with Sheila and Tree I don’t want to do anything behind their back so that is making me want to do Mindy
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Post by Clear Rivers Fri Apr 08, 2022 1:53 am

I’m personally leaning towards Mindy because she never talks game with me, and like you said it would be a good idea for us 3 to vote the way Sheila would like so that we could keep that 4 in tact. Like if 3 of us commit to it, all we need is 1 more and if Nancy is down for it, then that’s 4 votes.

Penelope is telling me that she doesn’t care either way, but she heard Mindy started a push for Penelope to go, but then retreated when she knew she didn’t have the majority. Are you getting the same?
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Post by Tatum Riley Fri Apr 08, 2022 2:22 am

Penelope has been telling me she doesn’t trust Mindy for a while now so I’m sure that she is a lock for Mindy to go. It seems like Luba and Samara want Carrie to go but as I’ve said if both you and Sheila prefer for Mindy to go, I don’t feel strongly enough about either people to fight for one way or another so I would like to stick with you guys
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Post by Clear Rivers Fri Apr 08, 2022 2:28 am

I think rn Luba and Samara are the only ones wanting to keep Mindy, but I’m waiting to see what Penelope says and if she gives me the same thing she’s telling you. Do you know what Tree is thinking? But yeah, I’m more than likely voting Mindy out.
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Post by Tatum Riley Fri Apr 08, 2022 3:38 am

Considering what Carrie just said I’m more on the fence now to be honest with you
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Post by Clear Rivers Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:02 am

The part where she’s telling people to vote her out or where she says Sheila said she would put you and Tree up? lol I really don’t think that’s true because I would know because I think Sheila would have told me and there’s no way I would let her go after you two without telling y’all. I don’t really think Carrie is someone people tell that kind of information to lol
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Post by Tatum Riley Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:19 am

Well both. Even if it is false, that means she is going around saying my name Ya know so like is she trying to get eyes on me and tree? And why would I keep her if that’s the case? I know Sheila didn’t actually put me or tree up when she had 3 noms to make so I’m really not questioning Sheila but I am questioning Carrie and whether I should keep her around
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Post by Clear Rivers Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:27 am

No yeah I definitely understand. I would also be concerned if it had been my name thrown out there. But I get what you mean. It’s interesting to see though that someone who is on the block with Mindy is willing to sacrifice their game for her to stay. But Carrie is weird as hell tbh, like why start something now when your ass been irrelevant this whole time.
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Post by Tatum Riley Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:39 am

Oh that’s really true too that Carrie is throwing in her game for her. Maybe she had an alliance with her. I feel like Carrie should have been prejury so like I’m just wanting her to leave and I don’t want it to be a story of someone wins hoh and they want me out and use Carrie as a pawn and then people are like oh the hoh wanted this so I’ll do it. Like I don’t want that to happen to me lmao
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Post by Tatum Riley Fri Apr 08, 2022 1:29 pm

I might be someone who is over thinking a lot but I really thought about this vote even though I don’t particularly feel strongly about keeping either nominee. Tree told me she wanted to throw Mindy a sympathy vote which I thought was really shitty of her to put me in that swing position as far as we knew. From the few things Carrie has said and from Mindys campaign it seems like if either stay they would come for Sheila but a main difference is Mindy had mentioned you and Sheila as a power duo and would come for you which I don’t want. Since Mindy seems more capable of winning i voted her out despite the worries I kind of have about Carrie. I just feel very annoyed that tree decided to make it 4-3 probably in an attempt to gain a jury vote with her
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Post by Clear Rivers Fri Apr 08, 2022 2:35 pm

Good morning, sorry I went to bed soon after I sent my last response to you.

I just saw Tree’s message about wanting to throw Mindy a “pity” vote when it’s actually quite clear what Tree’s intent was with that vote. I also find it really annoying because, while I get it, it kind of says fuck you to us, but also fuck you to YOU because she put you in that position. She’s already trying to garner jury votes in that way and it’s really annoying because she think’s she’s being slick. I trust her when it comes to us, but it’s really shitty of her to do that and I find it really fucking aggravating.

Thank you so much for having my back, Tatum, you know I’m loyal to you to the end. Fuck what you hear from these people. Being labeled a power duo is funny, but I guess people don’t realize that the 4 of us are aligned, which is great lmao. But yeah, I’m gunning for HoH. I’m off today and can actually compete without interruption so hopefully I can pull it off. I’d rather you or I win it over anyone else.
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